Magnum lipless crankbait

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Magnum lipless crankbait

Postby RhettWheeler » Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:30 am

Hi Larry, hope you are well!
Haven’t made any hardbaits in a while, but recently decided to make a large lipless crankbait for stripers and big largemouth bass.
I decided to sculpt something that would cover a variety of salt and freshwater forage. For saltwater I plan to do it in a porgy and also menhaden. For fresh: big shad, perc, crappie, bluegill, herring. The bait is 4.25”, 2.25oz. The master was done in sculpey firm. HS1 for mold silicone. White casting resin.
Thanks for checking it out have a nice day everyone.
Lipless crankbait master

https://photos.app.goo.gl/y9WcEbqJBYVGp91eA

Lipless crankbait mold
https://photos.app.goo.gl/sVYPNJAqXQZV7Ntx7

Lipless crankbait casting, white casting resin
https://photos.app.goo.gl/zLjg1tH9pMSRueEJ6

Weighted blank with hardware setup
https://photos.app.goo.gl/16H8BXPuFyMcEst96

Swim video
https://photos.app.goo.gl/oKHhVSJL3P3QsUev6

Quick Copic spray job
https://photos.app.goo.gl/2TEMriN6nb6jWLhe7

Finished test bait
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bkGrKPdSHph1LJEZA
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Re: Magnum lipless crankbait

Postby dahlberg » Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:42 am

Hey Rhett,
As usual, GREAT WORK! Thanks for sending and sharing the pics!
Just as an aside, I categorize that family of lures among the vibrating blade category, and I hope the reason is obvious! The lipless crankbait designation has always kind of been too blurry for me to either incorporate or digest into my way of understanding!
Again, thanks!
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Re: Magnum lipless crankbait

Postby RhettWheeler » Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:58 am

That does seem to make more sense and is certainly more concise. thank you for noting and thank you for the fast reply!

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Re: Magnum lipless crankbait

Postby RhettWheeler » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:05 am

I guess I always thought a blade bait was metal? Then again the shape of the bait is a blade. My head hurts. :lol:
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Re: Magnum lipless crankbait

Postby dahlberg » Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:52 am

I knew you would know exactly what I was talking about!
Way, way back I co-authored a book with Dick Sternberg and Parker Bauer called Artificial Lures for the Hunting and Fishing Library. we spent a great deal of time and thought in regards to logical lure categories.
Bass anglers and publications have done a terrible job in regards to being either consistent or logical with terminology. It drives me a little crazy because it impedes communication and understanding, not to mention retarding the growth of the body of knowlege!
Same effect as the tower of Babel story in the bible.
Confusing the terms Structure versus Cover, the descriptions of rod actions and powers, the term pre-fishing, "reaction bite" versus what, a non-reaction bite?? I could go on and on.
Always good to hear from you!
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Re: Magnum lipless crankbait

Postby RhettWheeler » Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:14 pm

I can understand why it would drive you crazy. Bass anglers (myself included) def have our own lingo.
For example when you hear swimbaits you typically will think of anything with a paddle but then there's a whole arena of folks who don't consider anything under 6" a true swimbait haha You know the big bait big fish guys. A large part of that movement is more about style than actual strategy in my opinion. With that being said I have a "swimbait" tied on and in my car as I trype! I'm definitely guilty of using the lazier terminology quite a bit!
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Re: Magnum lipless crankbait

Postby Caja » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:04 am

So is a vibrating jig a blade bait? Rhett your Magnum blade baits are sick/sweet.
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Re: Magnum lipless crankbait

Postby RhettWheeler » Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:20 am

haha Larry we may need to read that book

But I’d say your description “vibrating jig” covers it pretty well.
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Re: Magnum lipless crankbait

Postby dahlberg » Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:33 am

Seriously, the "chatter bait" style of lure, to my knowledge, didn't exist when we worked out all the classifications.
Prior to it, There were a couple of vibrating disc type attempts. The earliest one I recall was called a Vibrobat and was advertised in comic books when i was a little kid back in the late 50's.
Later on I can recall a lexan disc about the size of a fifty cent piece with a slightly off-center hole and a couple of small lead weights pressed into it.
Also something similar they called an Eaker Shaker. I believe they were used ahead of a worm or other weighted soft plastic.
The point being, I'm not sure if there is a very good existing classification for that type of lure.
Really, what should you call a small sheet metal, bridle-less underwater kite with a jig head for a tail? After all, isn't that what that style of bait actually is..?
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Re: Magnum lipless crankbait

Postby Caja » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:58 am

AKA flightless jig, I am going to have to read that book too. What category would clackin Crayfish?
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Re: Magnum lipless crankbait

Postby dahlberg » Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:04 am

Very good question, and likely one for which there is no answer....yet! Design of that one it too far out of the box to fit anywhere. Lures with Variable control surfaces are pretty hard to classify.
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Re: Magnum lipless crankbait

Postby RhettWheeler » Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:27 pm

Pretty sure if there was such a thing as a PHD in Lures, Larry would have one in spades haha.
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Re: Magnum lipless crankbait

Postby RhettWheeler » Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:12 am

https://photos.app.goo.gl/zk3D6H5PDPHJPdvs5

Here ya go fellas- made a Pogy with in-line singles for saltwater.
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